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Default I've finalized my thoughts.. - 11-07-2014, 09:16 PM

So, truth be told... before I came back officially, I did some surveying of the boards. I did my research on what the team was doing, who was being promoted and demoted, and all of the "essential" changes that were being made in the server. I'm saddened by the state of SilabGarza, in multiple perspectives this was my first home; seeing it fall apart has it's effect on me. Of course, I've played parts in the damage of this server as well, and maybe everyone has. I'll tell you what I've noticed, what I think could be done, and just some generalized advice.

>> Problem Part One: Updates


Surprisingly enough, I came back and I saw consistent updates being made by Travis. I'd heard about Hadyn, Keystroke and everyone else who "attempted" to help this server, and it was pretty evident that Travis hasn't gotten much help throughout the years. When I came back and saw that updates were being made at least a couple of times throughout the week, I was shocked. However, it was the quality of the updates that sort of... shook my core. Useless, space-filling, unnecessary updates is essentially all I saw as I scrolled through that particular forum. Upsetting. You can do better than that, Travis. Why don't you? It's upsetting that nobody has ever taught you quality over quantity.

>> Problem Part Two: Staff


Ha, what a joke. Ohhhh, ban him and ban her, and if she back-talks you then ban them too. Respect is, and forever will be, an attribute that is earned through the eyes of intellect, strength and the ability to lead. Congratulations on getting in-game mod, forum mod, forum administrator... hell, even co-owner. If you're not going to do anything to maintain it though, then step down, and stop wasting everyone's time. I'm not going to direct this at anyone, and perhaps those that need to be removed already have been, I haven't taken the time to look again. It's ridiculous though, you're meant to lead. You're not meant to strip the fun from the players, you're meant to ensure that other players don't strip the fun from the players. Honestly, it's humorous to look through the boards and literally watch the "team" work against each other, as if it's some sort of competition to see who can outdo each other. It's pitiful.

>> Problem Part Three: Community


Parasites. Don't get me wrong, even riots have people who don't want to be involved, but get involved just from peer pressure. I'm not a very nice person, I've been told this countless times throughout the internet, in person, it doesn't matter. I'm rude to people, I hardly ever give people the chance to impress me... so when I tell you that I'm literally disgusted by the attitude and toxic mannerisms of this community, it should mean something to you. I remember back in 2012, I ran a network of games, and I had probably 7 - 10 of the best developers I've ever met on any scene working for me. When everything began to fall apart near the end, one of the programmers, the head of my C++ based games, approached me. I remember him asking me if it was worth it, and I, to this day didn't understand what he meant as moments later 9 of my closest friends blocked me on Skype. I still haven't talked to them since that day, and now I've realized what I did. I allowed my ego to block the better good of what I was truly trying to accomplish. Now, now. Does it feel good to sit behind a computer, typing hurtful comments and statements at a team who do everything voluntarily? It's something I don't think many people understand, not even myself. How can you judge someone for something that most likely doesn't effect your immediate experience? Granted, Travis and the administrative circle of this server haven't always had their greatest moments... but if you're still here from 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011; they're doing something right as well. If you're going to be a parasite, then go bring down the community, attitude and well-being of a different server. This isn't your home to destroy, not when you did nothing to build and create it.

>> My Solution


It's time to get down to work here because time is running out. Honestly, from what I imagine, this server isn't turning a profit at all. It's only a matter of time before it becomes a burden to maintain, and then it'll be gone. You really think Travis will revive this server from the ground if it's shut down due to lack of funding? No, right. So if you're not going to be the one to drop massive bucks, we've gotta start working to bring in the new flesh. I believe Trey (I think), one of my good friends, did a calculation that produced a percentage of players whom enjoy their first experience at a server, will donate at least 5 dollars or more in the first week. Now, if I recall, the percentage was something near 77-80%. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure everyone enjoyed the servers a lot more when there were 250, 300 - 500 players online, and the forums were non-stop activity. It was like a family, wasn't it? It was amazing because it never stopped growing.

If you want that back, then it's time to shape the fuck up. Stop creating ridiculous positions to attempt to mask the fact that the server is utterly and destructive falling apart from the inside. No offense to Killian, but your position is entirely un-needed. If Travis needs someone to spoon-feed him the updates that need to be happening, then it's already the end-game. It's time for you to go, or find home to SilabGarza as just a member. Your position is extraneous, and un-necessary, and it looks bad to have a community manager, when there isn't a community. Sorry, it's the truth. It's a public image. I could envision your role being vital when there are thousands of people a day, and it's entirely too hectic for the administration panel to handle on their own, but there isn't. Only one thread was posted this entire day, I think. Maybe 10-15 replies in total? Sorry.

Updates need to be flashy, and well advertised, along with the server. I'm talking wide-spread advertisement. You need to start speaking with those that have previous connections with servers and get the word spread that SilabGarza is beginning to make a comeback, and when people get here, don't allow them to leave disappointed. As much of a dismay as it is for Travis, this "private server scene" is entirely based around customer satisfaction. You could be the best developer in the world, mistreat and slack off on your duties, and you won't produce shit for a community. You won't make any money, your servers will grow too expensive, and your entire server will drop into nothingness.

I'm not going to bother typing out an entire revival plan, as I've already given one to Travis that he entirely decided to ignore. Honestly, it's his funeral, but I posted this thread because I know some of you are like brothers. You share in each other's triumphs, your sorrows, you face sadness together and you overcome grief. You're truly a family, and I'm going to do everything I can to ensure that family-bond isn't broken.

Final thoughts: stop being fucking pricks, start being consistent and overzealous with your updates, stop making fake positions to cover for the slack of your already made ones, and for fucking sakes, don't allow this server to fucking die.

That is all.
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Default 11-07-2014, 09:38 PM

Holy shit. I read that whole thing and I have only one thing to say to you...I LOVE YOU.

Yours thoughts were pretty much "similar" to mine but, if I made a thread about it, people would go mayhem.

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Default 11-07-2014, 09:44 PM

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Holy shit. I read that whole thing and I have only one thing to say to you...I LOVE YOU.

Yours thoughts were pretty much "similar" to mine but, if I made a thread about it, people would go mayhem.

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I'm just trying to keep this log floating above water, but this shit is getting heavy as fuck and it's starting to drown. I honestly might just be too late, and that's fucking saddening.
  
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Default 11-07-2014, 10:19 PM

travis only started asking for suggestions and what people wanted when the playercount dropped to 20 players after multiple people including myself suggested what to do to somewhat revive sg but nope

i dont see sg being revived unless its handed over to someone else that would be dedicated and are willing to spend tonnes of hours to get it back to scratch


  
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Default 11-08-2014, 02:39 AM

You mentioned "I came back and I saw consistent updates being made by Travis. I'd heard about Hadyn, Keystroke and everyone else who "attempted" to help this server, and it was pretty evident that Travis hasn't gotten much help throughout the years."

That's why I'm here, to actually help and do something to get SG back to what it was and even better.

Other than that I agree.


  
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Default 11-08-2014, 03:47 AM

I have absolutely no clue what you mean at the staff part of your story. It might've been like that when you were around, but I'm 100% sure that's not the case anymore. I would like to know where you got that information.

The rest of your story seems fair, although this is just the same suggestions over and over. We realize what's wrong, and personally I appreciate your effort, but it's not a matter of coming up with better ideas (there's plenty) but actually executing them.

And, I don't think Killian is unnecessary. He's here to help (voluntarily for now!!) with the lack of updates/good ideas, which will always benefit the server, even if it's very slightly.




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Default 11-08-2014, 04:32 AM

I think it's a lot simpler... people like change and the server's play style hasn't changed since the Korasi was introduced and rune knives got a nerf... and shit I think that was V4... where version actually had a significant change.

OT: your points are fair but I agree with Google on the staff... Maybe the moderators aren't as useful anymore, but only because of the server state...

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i cba to read tbh, but you came back yesterday dont really think thats enough time to properly analyse the situation and believe you can fix it in an instant.

He said he'd been hovering the boards for quite a while. He knows about Keystroke etc...



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Default 11-08-2014, 04:42 AM

i cba to read tbh, but you came back yesterday dont really think thats enough time to properly analyse the situation and believe you can fix it in an instant.


  
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Default 11-08-2014, 05:50 AM

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I have absolutely no clue what you mean at the staff part of your story. It might've been like that when you were around, but I'm 100% sure that's not the case anymore. I would like to know where you got that information.

The rest of your story seems fair, although this is just the same suggestions over and over. We realize what's wrong, and personally I appreciate your effort, but it's not a matter of coming up with better ideas (there's plenty) but actually executing them.

And, I don't think Killian is unnecessary. He's here to help (voluntarily for now!!) with the lack of updates/good ideas, which will always benefit the server, even if it's very slightly.
I guess he means you guys as the staff team are banning people too fast.
And those warnings,
I seriously think you guys are warning 1 player every single day.


  
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Default 11-08-2014, 05:53 AM

Some parts of your thread were good to be honest. However, I don't know why you labelled the staff as a whole as a "problem" when the only staff that are shitty are the forums staff. The in game staff are actually decent, and you really have no grounds to bash them for being inactive or whatever, because who the fuck wants to play SG in its current state, staff or not.

Once again, it pisses me off that you called the community a problem when they aren't at all. Owners complain about negative threads and get defensive instead of just listening and putting up with them. If you actually listen to a community they start to become less negative as they gain something to be positive about; a game that works. Therefore it's pretty unfair to call the community a problem when it stems directly from Travis.

The only problem on SG is Travis. Yeah there might be a few smaller "problems" like the community and staff, but they only turned that way because of how shit he is. He doesn't need a community manager it is just another excuse, that's all we've ever had from him is excuses after excuses and then some scapegoating too. He just can't code, he can't listen, he's not really that active, let's just be honest he isn't fit to run a server. It has been apparent from the start, the game was better 3 years ago than it is now, so therefore he wasted 3 years of his life, making something worse. All the updates have been terrible since I can remember, like actually really shit. For instance this week I pointed out errors in the combat system, told him how to fix it, the only thing he did was change some numbers in a code to tweak max hitting, I think an infant could do that. When i provided him with the correct way to fix turmoil he completely ignored it with the only reason being he was too lazy. If he is unable to fix something properly when he has been told exactly what to fix, he is either incapable, or too lazy to run a server. If he keeps acting like a complete idiot we are never going to get players back.

TLDR: Travis is the only problem with SG.


  
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